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Post by luvsanimals2 on Feb 18, 2014 21:16:54 GMT
i hope this cures her
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Post by kmic on Feb 18, 2014 21:19:05 GMT
Wow it's really good that you found such a specialist close by. I really liked how he placed the bird's interests first rather than business. I mean if his first concern was money not the bird's well being, he'd have told you to take her in for a check up and discuss things.
Good luck and really hope she stops laying eggs.
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Post by Sarah on Feb 19, 2014 1:38:17 GMT
Its great that you found a specialist. I hope that you can get this under control now
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Post by lisamarie on Feb 19, 2014 1:40:31 GMT
I agree with how awesome this vet sounds. I personally won't take my birds to the vet unless they absolutely needed it. But that's only because I have no avian vets ANYWHERE near me. But you are very fortunate and should take advantage of this resource. Also, if it were me I would do my own research about these shots online. From a .org or .edu or some credible source. Just because I feel as though injecting such a small animal is so dangerous. Maybe I'm just over concerned.
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Post by Sarah on Feb 19, 2014 3:05:22 GMT
I also don't take my birds for yearly checkups. Unlike dogs or cats, they don't have safe, proven routine vaccinations, and I only see a routine vet check as an opportunity for parrots to be exposed to illness and stress. I think that a new pet visit is very important, and that an owner should be ready to take their bird to the vet for any symptom of illness, but I don't see the benefit of a 'well' visit for a bird.
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Post by rdkntriker on Feb 19, 2014 21:50:26 GMT
I also don't take my birds for yearly checkups. Unlike dogs or cats, they don't have safe, proven routine vaccinations, and I only see a routine vet check as an opportunity for parrots to be exposed to illness and stress. I think that a new pet visit is very important, and that an owner should be ready to take their bird to the vet for any symptom of illness, but I don't see the benefit of a 'well' visit for a bird. I think the key is ready to take them to a Vet with symptoms of illness. I hear people when they say they do not have enough money to do that, but to me that is part of ownership of a pet. I understand hard times, but if times are hard then do not get a pet. Sorry but that is how I feel.
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Post by Pammy on Feb 20, 2014 19:40:58 GMT
I agree so much with everyone on this thread. So happy an excellent avian vet could be located for Santino, and I'm really very impressed with him so far. As previously said, the fact that he talked with you so much without having you pay for an appointment is most impressive. I'm also impressed that he plans to research the shots before blindly giving them to such a small species of bird. He sounds like a vet who genuinely cares about animals. Yay!
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Post by dianapalmer on Feb 20, 2014 21:23:34 GMT
I just cannot think poor people should not be able to have pets. We have more poor people in this country than any other developed country in the world. And, we have many animals languishing in shelters. Should we really judge poorer people for wanting an animal as part of their family? The vet I used to take my cat to had posters up about physical therapy for dogs and cats. How much would this cost? Is that an obligation if you choose to have a pet? What about children? Should poor people not be allowed to have children? Animals get sick in the wild and have no vet care. I think that if we love our animals and provide what is within our means, that should be enough. Clearly, we want to avoid any animal's suffering. Do we euthanize? Or, do we provide support so the animal may transition at home? These questions come up with human beings too. I have read many things recently about elderly people who are resuscitated and provided services they don't really want when they are ready to die. Hard times may not be predictable. I think it's a very tough question. I am fortunate not to have severe money worries. Still, there is a limit on how much I could spend for medical care for an animal. Should there be an absolute amount you are willing to provide before you are allowed to have a pet? How much should that be? I had a wonderful cat that developed cancer. The last two years of her life, I believe her care cost over $2,000. That was a lot of money. I was able to do it. And, that was only for palliative and diagnostic care. My vet did not recommend surgery. If she had, I don't think I could have afforded it. I probably would euthanized. If someone judged me, I would need to know that I made a rational decision, in terms of my resources, and that it did not mean that I did not love my cat. I made home made fresh food for her for two years. It took me about 2-1/2 hours every week or two. I am older now, and probably would not be able to make that commitment. It does not mean I would, therefore, not love the animal enough. I had a two different budgies when I was growing up. The first one I had for about two years. I was young at the time. However, I think my parents knew it was sick. They did not take it to the vet, because that was not within the range of things they thought was possible or reasonable (I guess). The budgie died. It might have died even if taken to the vet.
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Post by luvsanimals2 on Feb 20, 2014 23:00:55 GMT
our previous budgie, Mr. Feathers was ill and we took it to the vet and they diagnosed him with a tumor, now the only person who could of paid for the surgery would have been my dad (had not had a job at the time) and he decided not to and just to give him pain meds until his transition.
but in other news, how is miss egg producer? lol
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Post by Pammy on Feb 21, 2014 2:03:55 GMT
Diana, I believe we each have to decide what we are capable of doing. My opinion is that there is a happy medium in there. I believe that heroic efforts costing thousands of dollars (or even several hundred dollars) isn't reasonable in attempting to save say a cancerous animal. I do believe that a person should not take on an animal if they know they can't afford one. Meaning getting a dog and then saying they can't afford its yearly shots. Obviously an animal needs to fit into our budget, including a reasonable vet trip, should a need arise. I do not believe that poor people shouldn't have the joys of owning a pet, but I have also seen people who can't afford to buy their own groceries, and yet they have four dogs. There's something wrong there, too.
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Post by santinoandmondo on Feb 21, 2014 5:06:24 GMT
Dear luvs, Little Miss Egg Producer Santino contnues to amaze us with her persistence. She laid another one at the bottom of the cage today. She laid it kind of in the debris of her kebob toy. I did put a low-sided cardboard box filled with some bits of torn corrugated cardboard in her cage to keep th eggs from rolling all over the place. I think this might be the 7th egg of this clutch but I had thrown away the first 3 and had put aside the next 3. I replaced the last 3 after I spoke to the vet. She was sitting briefly on them today. Hoping that by being allowed to brood, and continued 14+ hours of darkness, and separate cages will break the cycle. I have to try for a couple more weeks. Cherry
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