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Post by kennyt on Nov 10, 2013 23:23:22 GMT
Here's my dilemma, when I first got Kyba, I did do a lot of reading in reguards to taming and what to do to build his trust and all. However, I did not read anything about how to train him to do certain things and reward him for doing so. I was content with him just getting on my shoulder and learning to talk. which he did freely on his own and I never even thought about treats, I always thought this was just his and our natural progression of bonding and trusting me. Even when I first tried to get him to climb my finger ladder which we still do now and then. I know that we have a unique bond that is not the normal for most all budgie and owner. I've even taught him to come to me when he is out or inside his cage just by either tapping the end table or the floor with my hand and finger and he comes running to me jumps on to my finger and heads right for my shoulder. Of course it was slow going at first to get him to come to me, but now he pretty much will do it when I get his attention. Again, I never thought I was training him to do this I just tried it one time after I noticed he would follow me around my apartment like a little puppy. I first started trying this after I got this video on June 10, 2012 when I first noticed him follow me around and climb up my sweat pants to me. I never once thought of trying to train him to do anything is always just happened he would do something one time I'd say his name get his attention offer my hand and he would just do it again. I'm afraid that if I introduce treats now for them doing what they've been doing since day one before I learned about treats and training. they will associate this and want something every time I come around and they both stop being the way they already have been on their own. One and ONLY thing I do NOT ever happen is change the way we are now freely joining me and staying with me and taking 20 30 minute naps during the day, or over night on the couch while they sleep and I watch tv. I do give them both a whole millet sprig as a treat though. for those who have not seen this video from the other forum enjoy because I still do watch it on youtube lol
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Post by dianapalmer on Nov 11, 2013 0:25:11 GMT
Very nice video.
It's great that you were able to train them without treats. I can see why you would be reluctant to introduce them now.
My birds really needed the encouragement of treats to overcome their fear of my hand. However, I hope to be able to phase them out in time and just rely on verbal praise.
When I watch the video of them stepping up onto my finger it makes my heart glad. I can see more clearly that they trust me so much more now. However, we still have a way to go.
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Post by kennyt on Nov 11, 2013 1:33:17 GMT
The morning I first got Kyba I started talking to him the second I got my hands in his box. When we got home n in his cage he was hesitant but I kept talking to him. by late that afternoon he was sitting next to me in his cage chirping at me. . I figured I see how he feelss about my hand I. His cage and was surprised he did not run or move he just kept looking at me my hand me again, before I knew it he stepped on to my hand. He wasn't shaking or nibbling either just sat there looking n chirping at me so I'd talk back. This is my reward from him now is how I see it.
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Post by luvsanimals2 on Nov 11, 2013 4:54:33 GMT
aww, thats so cool  |
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Post by lisamarie on Nov 11, 2013 14:48:43 GMT
That must make you feel so special to have your birds follow you around and love you like that Yours and Diana's videos make me want to tame my budgies but I know they won't. Well maybe eventually but they're SO scared of my hand, idk why. I don't have the kid of patience required to tame them  But my cockatiel is showing me she loves me and that makes me happy so I'll just let Bonnie & Clyde do their own thing, as Long as they're happy and healthy! |
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Post by kennyt on Nov 11, 2013 19:14:29 GMT
That must make you feel so special to have your birds follow you around and love you like that Yours and Diana's videos make me want to tame my budgies but I know they won't. Well maybe eventually but they're SO scared of my hand, idk why. I don't have the kid of patience required to tame them But my cockatiel is showing me she loves me and that makes me happy so I'll just let Bonnie & Clyde do their own thing, as Long as they're happy and healthy! thank you lisamarie, and YES definitely YES they both do make me feel special. thanks for enjoying their video's so much this here is by far my all time favorite video. as I mentioned Kyba would follow me around until I picked him up or stopped and let him climb my leg. when I let their feathers grow out a little and they both could hold short flights he jumped off the coffee talbe and flew into my lap this particular morning, and I thought I'd see if he would fly to my finger again like he and kylie did one day from their jungle gym to my finger. Talk about surprised when both Kyba and Kylie did it. this is from this past August this is from this past April |
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Post by lisamarie on Nov 11, 2013 19:36:10 GMT
Wow I love those videos!!!
So kyba is your boy correct? Kylie is a girl?
I wish my budgies loved me D:
Mine don't even like when my hands are in their cage to change their food!
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Post by kennyt on Nov 11, 2013 20:03:34 GMT
sorry to hear this about you and your budgies having a little set bonding to you. each budgie is different just takes time and patience, I still working with Kylie I'd like to have a closer one but am happy she is as close as she is with me right now. I have about 130 video's of Kyba n Kylie on youtube if you'd like I can keep posting video's for you in the video picture diary forum
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Post by lisamarie on Nov 11, 2013 20:07:00 GMT
I'll have to figure out if I have a youtube account (I think I do but I'm not even sure) and subscribe to you and BB! Enjoy both of your videos. Soon I hope people can enjoy videos of Lucy, she's such a wonderful bird. (Although more quiet that I wanted, but thats OK ) |
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Post by Sarah on Nov 12, 2013 17:26:38 GMT
Thing is, Kenny, you ARE rewarding them for good behavior and doing the things you want them to. But for your birds, praise is enough. Its just like some dogs will do anything in the world for their master, a kind word and a pat on the head, and others won't look unless you have a bone in your hand ^^
You are giving them something in return, you have just accidentally trained them with positive reinforcement instead of bribes, which is awesome.
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Post by kennyt on Nov 12, 2013 20:36:01 GMT
Thing is, Kenny, you ARE rewarding them for good behavior and doing the things you want them to. But for your birds, praise is enough. Its just like some dogs will do anything in the world for their master, a kind word and a pat on the head, and others won't look unless you have a bone in your hand ^^ You are giving them something in return, you have just accidentally trained them with positive reinforcement instead of bribes, which is awesome. thank you sarah and honestly I never thought about it in that way but it makes sense. they do respond to me when I call either of their names they look at me, and if its Kyba he will wander on over to me. Im not changing the way things are thanks again sarah |
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