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Post by Natasha on Nov 23, 2013 23:23:59 GMT
i have 10 budgies. 5 males and 5 females. two of the females laid eggs. a white and a green one. only the white one's eggs seem to be fertile and the green one breaks her eggs within a couple of hours after laying and eats the yolk, she never sits on the egg and spends less time in the nest box. the white one, one of her eggs hatched. the baby is now 2 weeks old and one of his legs is paralysed or broken, i don't know. maybe the hen has been sitting too tight on him. his posture is inclined to the right and her left leg that seems broken is always up in air, it appears to me it has curled toes and a bent keel. can it be fixed? please help. als the other eggs that the white female laid, they broke and i noticed a little blood coming out of it and a half developed child inside. is there anything i should be doing? i keep them in sunlight for about 2 hours everyday. and the temperature here is 13 degree Celsius. i do give them vegetables, fruits every other day. primarily they are on a seed diet, millets precisely. all of my budgies are about more than one year old. i'm also giving them boiled eggs and calcium supplements once or twice in a week. i keep their cage clean and warm, at almost constant temperature in room. from few days mama budgie (white one) is plucking all little feathers of her baby budgie, all his/her fluff on back is gone..thankfully no scar or bleeding yet. she's feeding him but not sitting in nest with him for too long. now she sleeps outside the nest on perch with her mate, male budgie. she makes loud noises at night and don't let any other bird in cage near her nest. and my other hen (green one) seems least interested to be a mother, she spend more time with her mate and keep on laying eggs that either cracks or stay unhatched because lack of incubation. i don't know how to stop her, i think its not even good for her health to lay eggs so frequently. i doubt she will feel lonely if i separate her from male. i don't know what should i do. i want to raise baby budgies, it must be so good to see them growing healthy. your valuable suggestions are welcome. thanks for reading. may god bless you!
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Post by Pammy on Nov 23, 2013 23:59:40 GMT
Hello, and welcome to our forum!
My suggestion, even though you want to raise babies, is to get your hens out of breeding condition for the time being. With all that egg laying, their tiny bodies need a chance to rest up and regain strength. They don't seem to be interested in motherhood right now anyway.
To get them out of condition, remove the nest box! Remove anything they could think of as a nest, like snuggly tents, half-coconut bowl shaped toys, etc. It's great that you feed some veggies. You'll want to feed a whole lot more veggies, and some fruits, too. They will continue to need some seeds or pellets, but not millet. Millet is more for special treats and training rewards, not for daily meals. Another thing to do for your birds is cover their cage longer at night, like almost 12 whole hours. This will make your birds think it's wintertime even when it isn't, and will discourage the summertime behavior of breeding.
After several months of healthy living, you could choose a pair of budgies and separate them into their own cage with a nest box, and try again for babies.
Best wishes, and please let us know how your birds are doing.
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Post by Pammy on Nov 24, 2013 0:06:26 GMT
Oh, and about the newborn chick with the deformed leg -- you will have to decide whether you want to take him from his mother and take on the responsibility of hand feeding him, or whether you want to let nature take its course. That's a really tough one! But leaving him there for his mother to pluck can't be the right answer.
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Post by Natasha on Nov 24, 2013 0:54:09 GMT
thank u so much, pammy i will take care of their diet. and i will remove nest boxes from their cage. i hope our baby budgie will survive. i will take him to vet on monday. yes u r right..i need to know if its ok to separate him from his mother. he's almost 2 weeks old. can u suggest me what kind of baby food i have to feed him..if i'll hand feed him n raised myself? i'm a bit scared to hold him, he's so delicate. i will try to post a pic of him. hope u cud tell me if i'm just freaking out or he's fine. have a great day/night. thank u once again.
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Post by luvsanimals2 on Nov 24, 2013 0:59:40 GMT
yep, if you dont want to breed any more then remove everything that resembles a nest box and let them regain their strength. then when they are ready, i would suggest removing either the pair you want to breed so the other hens do not destroy the eggs or fight with the hen. i am not sure what to do with the baby, is it splayed legs? www.parrotparrot.com/lovebirds/breeding-lovebirds/fixing-splay-legs/"Splayed Legs (also called spraddled leg): A deformity that occurs in the nest during the chick's development. Possible causes are insufficient or improper bedding materials, the hen unintentionally sitting on the chick too much, and/or dietary imbalance. The condition is characterized by one or both legs extending laterally from the hip, instead of in the normal position downward. The condition is correctable in young chicks. If the condition is left unchecked, the bones will calcify and the condition will be permanent. For more information on splayed legs, including how to treat the deformity, see the article Splayed Leg by Wanda Barras."
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Post by Sarah on Nov 24, 2013 1:04:16 GMT
This leg deformity sounds like splayed leg syndrome which is correctable. However, before I teach you what to do, I need you to post a photograph so that I can be sure that is the problem.
Pammy is right: your hens need a break. Try again in a few months and choose your breeding partners carefully and cage them alone together. Your hens seem to be stressed, and that's what is causing the problem.
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Post by Pammy on Nov 24, 2013 2:28:18 GMT
Natasha, as for pulling the chick, I say yes, you can definitely take him from his mother. Is it ideal? No, but she is plucking him. He won't last if he's left with her. It's possible he won't survive either way, but you can certainly try! Lots of breeders pull the babies to hand feed at two weeks. If you can dedicate yourself to all the feedings, meaning you are home enough and willing to get out of bed like for a human infant, and so forth, then I really think it's the best thing you can do if you want to save the angel.
As for the exact formula product, we need somebody else to jump in. I have no experience hand feeding baby birds. I know you need baby bird formula. I'm assuming you can find it at pet stores and that you can read feeding instructions on the package.
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Post by luvsanimals2 on Nov 24, 2013 2:37:09 GMT
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Post by Sarah on Nov 24, 2013 4:59:51 GMT
When you take the chick away from her mom, you need to give her something to keep her warm. Perhaps a small heating pad under a corner of a cardboard box that you can make her temporary home in. Just be sure the baby can move away from the heat source if it is getting too hot. And remember to take that picture for me. I may be able to help you correct your budgies growth defect.
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Post by Natasha on Nov 24, 2013 9:29:24 GMT
thank u very much. i'm trying to post a pic of him here. u really helped me, it gives me hope..i only want he'll survive. i dont want unhealthy chicks, i'll remove all nesting material.
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Post by dianapalmer on Nov 24, 2013 15:22:29 GMT
Thinking about you and hoping for success.
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Post by Natasha on Nov 24, 2013 17:33:39 GMT
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Post by Pammy on Nov 24, 2013 18:09:58 GMT
Yes, if she is harming him, he should not stay with her another moment.
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Post by Sarah on Nov 24, 2013 19:05:55 GMT
You should separate him, he is old enough to make it on hand feeding now. Can you show me a picture of his leg problem though?
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Post by Natasha on Nov 25, 2013 4:08:27 GMT
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