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Post by Pammy on Dec 16, 2013 1:33:58 GMT
I visited PetsMart the other day, and while I'm getting pretty good at quickly noting the difference between boy and girl budgies in most color mutations, I am still a bit stumped when it comes to albinos and lutinos. I'm wondering if any of you have an albino or lutino budgie and if you could post his or her picture here, with a clear shot of the cere, and show me the difference. Some of you know that I would like to get two female budgies and increase my budgie flock to four. I would not be happy with myself if I accidentally got only one girl and upped my boy population to three. Any pictures and descriptions would be very helpful. Thanks so much!  |
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Post by Sarah on Dec 16, 2013 1:41:48 GMT
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Post by Pammy on Dec 16, 2013 6:12:52 GMT
So the yellow one is male, and the two grown white ones are female, but the itty bitty baby? That one has me confused. Is its cere white, or a pretty pearly pink?
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Post by Sarah on Dec 16, 2013 10:00:30 GMT
Oh that is the same bird as the adjacent picture, that's just her newborn picture.
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Post by dianapalmer on Dec 16, 2013 14:46:24 GMT
The budgie I had for ten years or so while I was growing up looked just like the yellow one. His name was Piper and he said many words and phrases. He was a great pet.
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Post by Pammy on Dec 16, 2013 17:31:52 GMT
Sarah, I read somewhere (maybe you even wrote it) that when looking into an enclosure filled with baby or child budgies, that all the ones with pink or purple ceres are boys and the rest are girls. And also that it's fairly safe to guess it's a girl if you see one that really stumps you. Would you say those two statements are accurate?
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Post by dianapalmer on Dec 16, 2013 17:43:47 GMT
I have been confused by young girls having light blue ceres and adult males having bright blue. I would have mistaken the light blue for a boy. I wonder why girls start with blue and boys start with purple.
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Post by Pammy on Dec 16, 2013 17:52:03 GMT
It's all a plot to confuse us, Diana!
No, seriously, I have wondered about that, too. That's super confusing for people who think boys of all ages have blue ceres. I've even run into pet shop managers who think blue-cered baby girls are boys. Then they sell girl birds to people who happily take home their "boy" bird.
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Post by dianapalmer on Dec 16, 2013 18:17:33 GMT
It's great that you asked this question, because it's the first time I really understood it. I guess I didn't read Luvs' article carefully enough, because she also explains it.
Looking at your signature picture of Claus, I might have thought he was a girl, because his cere looks light blue and seems to get whitish around the nostrils. But, this may be the lighting. what do you think?
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Post by Pammy on Dec 16, 2013 20:13:08 GMT
Clausy had me confused in the beginning. The people who had him before said he was a girl. I had no reason to think otherwise, until I posted "her" picture here and was told my little girl was in fact a boy! I was quite surprised. Now I understand that recessive pied boys keep their sweet baby pink ceres all their lives. Clausy's cere is a lovely smooth and even pink. Occasionally, he almost looks like there's some white, and that part is confusing, but BB told me months ago that if he were a girl, he would long ago have had the crusty brown cere of an adult female. He's a little man for sure. Albinos still confuse me when I am looking at lots of baby birds at the pet store. I am real good at determining most of the babies, but when an albino has a gentle-colored cere of any pinkish hue, I start second-guessing myself. I just want to be really, REALLY sure that when I get mates for Kringle and Clausy, that I for absolutely sure bring home two girls. And as a side note, while it's true that I am naming a boy bird Mistletoe, naming a boy Noel would just be taking it tooooooooo far.  Anyway, I certainly don't have my heart set on an albino, but if an albino or lutino is the bird I find to be the very prettiest available at the time, I will get it. My first choice in my mind, however, is for my little girl budgies to be a normal green and the purplest one I can find. That would give me lovely variety in my flock. |
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Post by Sarah on Dec 16, 2013 20:21:07 GMT
Pammy: If you want to be sure that you get a hen with 100% accuracy, white is your friend. Any baby with white on their cere is going to be female. Yes, it is true that I say that boys are very easily identifiable and what is difficult to figure out is female. However, this can be tricky in a pet store setting. The birds are not in optimal health, they may have minor scuffs or some hormone imbalances from stress. This is just the reality of the pet trade. Even in the most conscientious and caring pet store owner cannot take as good care of all his animals as they will receive when they go into the home, there is just not enough time for that one on one care. As a result, sometimes ceres that are really on the fence and confusing turn out to be male, because they become more vivid with better health or lose a mark that was caused by stress or scuffs in the pet store. If you want to be CERTAIN you are getting females, then you should look for any white on the cere. It could be the whole cere, the nostril rings or a white band around the beak with pale blue above. White is right Also, birds with very obviously multicolored ceres are a safer bet: some pale blue, blush of pink with some pale nostril rings? That's a girl. |
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Post by Pammy on Dec 16, 2013 20:41:52 GMT
Thank you, Sarah. This helps a lot and is easily understandable.
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Post by Jolene on Nov 22, 2020 6:57:21 GMT
Clausy had me confused in the beginning. The people who had him before said he was a girl. I had no reason to think otherwise, until I posted "her" picture here and was told my little girl was in fact a boy! I was quite surprised. Now I understand that recessive pied boys keep their sweet baby pink ceres all their lives. Clausy's cere is a lovely smooth and even pink. Occasionally, he almost looks like there's some white, and that part is confusing, but BB told me months ago that if he were a girl, he would long ago have had the crusty brown cere of an adult female. He's a little man for sure. Albinos still confuse me when I am looking at lots of baby birds at the pet store. I am real good at determining most of the babies, but when an albino has a gentle-colored cere of any pinkish hue, I start second-guessing myself. I just want to be really, REALLY sure that when I get mates for Kringle and Clausy, that I for absolutely sure bring home two girls. And as a side note, while it's true that I am naming a boy bird Mistletoe, naming a boy Noel would just be taking it tooooooooo far. Anyway, I certainly don't have my heart set on an albino, but if an albino or lutino is the bird I find to be the very prettiest available at the time, I will get it. My first choice in my mind, however, is for my little girl budgies to be a normal green and the purplest one I can find. That would give me lovely variety in my flock. |
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Post by Jolene on Nov 22, 2020 7:02:27 GMT
Oh,cool, I have a female albino named Noel actually... she was hatched in a Christmas stocking on Christmas day so we had to give her a fitting name lol
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