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Post by rdkntriker on Feb 12, 2014 0:47:41 GMT
All this talk about bad grammar is making me afraid to post anymore. Believe it or not I am not good with grammar but that does not mean I am not smart or that I am lazy. There have been a few grammar remarks in these forums that make me wonder if we have a grammar police state going.
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Post by lisamarie on Feb 12, 2014 0:54:05 GMT
I know I have posted upon grammar's behalf but I think it was misunderstood. If you misspell words or jumble up words on here I won't judge anyone I meant from a business perspective, you have to be careful how you present yourself word-wise on websites. Only because it is seen as "unprofessional" We aren't professionals on here - it's all casual fun hobbies! I always type from my phone so usually if things are wrong in my sentences it is because my autocorrect likes to think it is smarter than I am but it isn't. It always changes "good" to "food" and vice versa! Especially since this forum is so perfectly diverse no one is going to beat each other up over tiny meaningless mistakes. My point was just to state if I was looking to buy something (especially a living animal) I would want them to have a professional website in a way. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I would never hold any grammar mistakes against ANYONE on here!
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Post by dianapalmer on Feb 12, 2014 0:56:07 GMT
I'm not worried about your or anyone else's grammar. I am interested in people's experiences and what they have to contribute.
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Post by luvsanimals2 on Feb 12, 2014 1:03:47 GMT
hm, that is odd. i dont care either way lol
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Post by Pammy on Feb 12, 2014 19:46:28 GMT
Santa, I am in complete agreement with Lisa. I believe that when someone is posting something professional, it should be grammatically correct. On the forum, if one of us posts an official article to be kept and referred to again and again for learning purposes, it should be proofread by more than one fellow user, and corrected to the best of our ability. I'm talking about articles on determining gender and so forth. As for regular old posts, nobody is judging grammar and spelling. Auto correct generally makes us all worse spellers than we really are. Please don't feel judged. The recent conversation concerning grammatical errors had to do with a business' official website. You yourself commented that as a businessman, you would want someone to proofread information you post in an official capacity so that your site would have a professional look. Please don't stop posting. Nobody cares about that stuff in our friendly little threads, and we would miss you tremendously.
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Post by Perla MV on Feb 12, 2014 21:34:51 GMT
I read that thread as well and I agree totally with Lisa and Pammy, my first language is spanish and both my computer and my mobile try to change my words in english to spanish, it's reeeally annoying, and it kind of makes me worry, not because I think you guys won't take me seriously but because maybe you won't understand what I'm trying to say... And just in case you really think my english is horrible, I can say my spanish is pretty awesome hahaha grammar is such an important thing, it says a lot about people, yes, but it all depends on the context, we're here, helping each other, having fun, sharing a little bit of our lives and our feathered friends, I don't think some bad grammar would make us judge or get judged, we're not here for that, are we?
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Post by rdkntriker on Feb 12, 2014 22:01:24 GMT
I was not only talking about the thread. I was talking about there have been references that other peoples grammar were not as good. Even way back when they were looking for mods. Something to the effect, you would be a good mod and you understand grammar. I am just pointing this out. Maybe others wonder what is being said about our bad grammar behind doors. Can you be a mod with out prefect grammar?
In any event, carry on and enjoy the forum.
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Post by Pammy on Feb 12, 2014 23:12:12 GMT
Perla, I think you have a wonderful grasp on the American English language! I deeply admire people who fluently speak more than one language. That is a skill I do not have. Don't ever think your English is sub par, nor that we can't understand you. You're doing great!!
Santa, when the officers speak behind closed doors, I can assure you that we never bash any of our members or discuss anyone in a negative light. Everyone is welcome here, and a valued member of our community. I'm sorry that you are feeling bad about this, and I apologize for my part in that (although I maintain that grammar is important and does have some bearing in how we represent ourselves). Truly, I have never noticed your grammar as being particularly rough. I've seen you point out that it's not great, but I've really not seen that for myself. I have had nothing but respect for you since you joined the forum, and have never, ever even remotely considered you as being not smart, or being lazy. I mean that most sincerely.
As for being a mod, when the forum was newly made, Sarah put out a call for officer nominations. People mentioned the names they would like to have considered, and why they thought those people would make good moderators. Sarah then set up a poll with the names most frequently mentioned, and everyone had the opportunity to vote. The 4 names with the most votes were made officers. Sarah did not choose the mods. We forum members did with our votes.
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Post by bree1818 on Feb 12, 2014 23:17:35 GMT
Perla, I hear ya! My first language is English, but I'm fluent in French, American Sign Language and Chinese as well. I came back from Taiwan and couldn't understand English at all. Funny story: my parents wouldn't let me drive for like 3 weeks after I came home from Taiwan, so my mom and I went to pick me up some clothes (I left mine in Taiwan so I would have more room for souvenirs) and the sales lady was trying to help me, but I couldn't understand what she wanted. My mom being the mother of the year wandered off thinking she was just giving me privacy to get my own clothes. Turns out that she told the sales lady I needed bras, and the lady was asking if I wanted one with an underwire. The sales lady called my mom over and was like "Does she understand English?" and my mom ended up having to sign what the lady was asking me.
As for grammar, dude, we're all friends right? As long as the post is understandable, I don't think everything has to be 100% perfect on here.
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Post by Sarah on Feb 13, 2014 3:41:29 GMT
I am sorry that you have been feeling this way! I promise you that we are not being judgmental or harsh. I will admit freely and openly that poor grammar or spelling can be somewhat frustrating for me: I make the study of the English language my work. I hope to be a writer, and I am an English major. However, I do not expect people to be perfect, I certainly am not. I also do not judge people based on their grammar in an informal forum setting, or anywhere really.
While I feel that being erudite is a good trait for someone in a leadership role to have, I do not believe that good grammar is an important part of being an admin. I set up the vote so that everyone could choose the admins together. I voted as well, and made my decision based on the person's kindness, passion about parrots and the desire to help other users.
Please let me know if there is anything I can do or anyone I could speak to in order to make you feel a little more comfortable on the forum.
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Post by Perla MV on Feb 13, 2014 4:06:03 GMT
Thank you Pammy And Bree hahaha that is such a funny story! Santa, to be honest, I haven't noticed any mistake when I read your posts/comments, and now knowing (because you said it) that you have bad grammar, doesn't change the impression I have of you you're such a sweet and loving person, obviously responsible, smart and caring, and I honestly think there won't be anything that will make me change my mind.
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Grammar
Feb 13, 2014 6:31:59 GMT
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Post by saif on Feb 13, 2014 6:31:59 GMT
Is my grammar bad? If so feel free to correct me there's nothing bad in correcting our mistakes. As for people getting scared to post because of their grammar dont be scared we are all friends here and understand what we are trying to tell
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Post by roxhum on Feb 13, 2014 14:14:03 GMT
I haven't noticed anyone criticizing grammar. I know for me and my poor grammar on this board, I am not on my big computer and although I type well I suck at finger typing on my ipad. If I had to analyze and reread and correct everything I write I would have that much less time to chat with all of you. At work communicating through email or writing something professional it is a different and I do take the time to make sure everything is correct. And then there is that cat in my lap nudging my hand, or a bird trying to perch on my finger or walking across my keyboard. And.... I know a sentence shouldn't begin with and. Yet, I am empressed with folks with English as a second language. I only know English. And... There is that and again. And if someone did not master grammar or reading as well as another I would hate for them to be excluded or made to feel bad because there contribution is every bit as valuable.
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Post by roxhum on Feb 13, 2014 14:20:07 GMT
AND Santa your post are great, I never noticed anything you wrote to be anything but interesting, thoughtful and supportive
and, I AM a bit lazy LOL
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