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Post by kennyt on Mar 8, 2014 3:18:43 GMT
she has gotten more and more mean towards Kyba. she sees to not want to play but always bite him even when he is with her in or outside their cage. Just tonight shortly before I decided to ask she got him good in the cage, so good that he came Running out and jumped right in to my arms like a scared child does a parent. Kyba was trembling a little but settled down after 2 3 minutes. I'm guessing she got him while he had his eyes closed to go to sleep. I did not see it just heard him yelp and heard him climbing out and running to me on the couch.
I was thinking to put her in a separate cage at night. but she is like this when they are out in the living room and or climbing on the tv stand. I think I am going to have to make the hard decision tomorrow and send her to the pet shop. I do not want to do this I love Kylie too, but I am worried for Kyba even more. Do you think she is being like this with him because he wont let her get closer to me? should I try and handle her more even though Kyba gets a little fussy. she does try and chase him away when I have them both. she is usually the one who flies away first. if Kyba does she follows and he comes right back to me. I just don't know what to do.
My question is how will this affect Kyba? I know budgies do better with another bird, will his solitude be harmful to him. I meant we went 4 months together bonding just him and me and was Mr. happy go lucky just fine. I do leave the tv on when I leave for work too so he does have another friend to watch and talk too and not be afraid of. I just don't know what to do here thank you for any and all advice suggestions |
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Post by Sarah on Mar 8, 2014 6:15:33 GMT
Kenny,
Before you make any choices with Kylie that can't be undone, I think that you should consider some changes. First, I think that you should cage them separately on opposite sides of the room. That way, Kylie has territory and Kyba has territory. Also, try moving things around in the main room where you spend time with them. Change up the furniture lay out, maybe even change the lighting. This will make the budgies reset and think of this area as neutral territory. Kylie will then likely only be aggressive within her own cage, and you can just keep Kyba away from it. Kylie may also be going through some hormonal changes that are causing her to act this way. Is she in breeding condition?
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Post by kennyt on Mar 8, 2014 7:57:41 GMT
No she is not I e been discouraging it here cere is not crusty. I will change up some things n separate them also. When kyba went back in and I covered then up she seemed to settle down I didn't hear him running. Thank you Sarah
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Post by kennyt on Mar 8, 2014 16:58:44 GMT
I got home early and they are now playing on their new rearranged tv stand jungle gym and I I rearranged the cage and the living room furniture. she seems to less aggressive for now. they were fine sitting near each other when I uncovered them this morning also. though Kyba did run out and waited for me at the door way to my room on the arm of the couch like he does now and then. again thank you sarah
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Post by luvsanimals2 on Mar 8, 2014 17:32:07 GMT
glad you got it sorted
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Post by Pammy on Mar 8, 2014 18:40:08 GMT
Kenny, I'm sorry you've been having this trouble. It seems Kylie has been mean to Kyba for a long time. I'm glad you changed up the room and rearranged the cage. I truly believe that for Kyba's sake, you should get that second cage and move one of them across the room, like Sarah suggested. Do you still have their old cage? They may both really enjoy the privacy and having their own space, and then you could try play dates together when you can supervise their behavior and make sure Kyba isn't being mistreated.
I agree with you that you should go ahead and give Kylie loves and attention by herself, even if it makes Kyba fussy. If Kylie wants to get closer to you, you shouldn't let Kyba decide it can't happen. I know Kyba is your extra special little friend, but you and Kylie having a closer relationship shouldn't harm that, especially if you play with them separately sometimes, so she can't bit him and he can't get grumpy and chase her away from you.
Please do get out that old cage or go buy another. Those two really do need some space apart from each other. I'm so glad you came to us with this. We are all here to help one other. That's the whole point of our forum. I know I have been helped so many times, and for more than just bird care. Keep us posted, Kenny, on how your Kyba & Kylie are doing.
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Post by kennyt on Mar 8, 2014 22:24:49 GMT
They're doing OK playing well together perching next to each other. I've been handling both of them all day. Though kyba hasn't gone inside the new set up yet. Kylie has ventured in and right back out a few times. I've moved a lot of things around. She has not been fussy at all mostly playful with him n me. I don't have their old cage I'm going to see how the change up I did in their cage for a night or 2 goes before u get Kylie her own cage.
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Post by santinoandmondo on Mar 8, 2014 22:35:23 GMT
Glad to hear they are doing better. I don't like having 2 cages for our 2 birds either but if it keeps them safe, it's what has to happen.
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Post by kennyt on Mar 9, 2014 7:45:12 GMT
looks like Im going to have to get Kylie her own cage to sleep in at night, she's still being mean to Kyba when they went into the cage and I closed the door. she only calms down after I cover them up and it's dark. other than that she was fine even when I had both of them with me on the couch she didnt chase him around as usual.
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Post by Sarah on Mar 9, 2014 7:48:25 GMT
Please give this a shot, and please understand that she is not trying to be mean. Something in Kylie's life is making her feel insecure, scared, like she has to protect herself and her territory. We both know she is not a bad bird at heart, and though it may seem to you that she is a bully picking on your beloved Kyba, know that perspective is human: that is not how they see the world.
I really think having her own designated territory will help her to calm down.
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Post by kennyt on Mar 9, 2014 8:07:26 GMT
Thank you Sarah for the clarification. I know she is a good girl and I am just being hard on her I did try to hold her as much as she would let me yesterday too. When i set them both ob top tgeur cage that sat there face ti facr and took a 5 m8bute nap. I will be running to pet smart first thing in the morning for her own benefit I've already got 6 he spot picked out her her own home/bed room
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Post by Pammy on Mar 9, 2014 19:51:22 GMT
How's it going today, Kenny, with the separate cages?
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Post by kennyt on Mar 9, 2014 20:23:02 GMT
we'll find out tonight they did not have the size I wanted yesterday so I went ahead and went back and got the next size down this morning. however Kylie does seem to calm down when I cover them. Hopefully getting her own home will help out. I did have them both out this morning on my arms and she did not chase him all over me like usual, and she was not shaking either. she seemed calm and relaxed. I will be sure and show her more attention even if Kyba gets upset with that.
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Post by kennyt on Mar 10, 2014 1:17:17 GMT
I set the cages on the floor away from each other and was able to set Kylie on the open door where she just stood there watching Kyba toss his ball around for almost 10 minutes before she joined him on the floor. She let me set her inside with no fuss. but now I've got Kyba chirping and talking in his cage under his sheet like he wants me to put Kylie back in with him. Kylie is all but silent with only a small cherp from her. neither is being overly loud just seem restless not use to the change. I think I'm going to put her back with Kyba if he doesn't settle down. I honestly don't know what to do it bothers me to hear him like this.
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Post by Sarah on Mar 10, 2014 3:04:30 GMT
Remember Kenny: You need to give any change at least one month to settle in. Of course they are going to be uncomfortable at first, its something new and strange. They were never going to be happy with a major change like this on the first day. If they are still crying in two weeks, we'll see. But try this for me, and for their safety.
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