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Post by Perla MV on Mar 25, 2014 19:55:50 GMT
Lutino/Albino  Haha yeah I suppose I have to wait a couple of months to start guessing  |
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Post by luvsanimals2 on Mar 25, 2014 20:46:59 GMT
looks female
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Post by lisamarie on Mar 26, 2014 3:03:30 GMT
Pammy, and Luvs, what am I missing as the indicator of a male? why am I seeing female? Maybe I'm color blind lol
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Post by Sarah on Mar 26, 2014 6:58:14 GMT
"Ino" Refers to any budgie with Albinism. We say "Ino" to talk about them collectively because the trait presents in three colors, Albinos, Lutinos and Creaminos, all of which end in "Ino"  On the subject of Inos, let me start off by saying Vanillin that your bird has the single strangest color cere I've ever been asked to identify. I don't think there is anything really wrong, but it's pretty atypical. On my screen at least it looks somewhere between a purple and a red-brown. Prefacing my opinion by saying that I've never seen a bird with quite that color cere before, I'd guess its male. Also, I am not at all certain that it is an Ino at all! In all three of these photos the eyes look very dark brown or black. If the birds eyes are not red, then you actually have what is known as a Dark Eyed Clear (DEC). The pictures may be off and your birds eyes might be red, but I thought I'd bring it up, because I can't see any red. |
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Post by vanillan on Mar 26, 2014 9:03:48 GMT
Sarah: Its not red at all, you are right, Miss E's are brown, then She must jave DEC, is it not common? because I see them in pet stores a lot, creaminos that have non-red eyes
ill get more puctures in natural light
can anyone give any indication of how to tell the difference between male and female ino's?
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Post by santinoandmondo on Mar 26, 2014 12:44:08 GMT
Thanks for telling me about what "ino" means in the avian world. I was only familiar with the internet meaning of ino = "I don't know". I was just looking up creamino and lutino because those are new to me. I came across an incredible website for a breeder in the Midwest of the U.S. www.cutelittlebirdiesaviary.com/The owner has meticulous photos and notes of her budgie room, nursery, how to sprout seeds, etc. and she has great looking nesting boxes. I just spent 30 minutes reading her breeding logs for a few of her breeding pairs! Vanillan, if you look at some of the breeding logs on the website, you might be able to figure out the sex of your bird. She breeds with a lot of inos. Cherry |
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Post by Sarah on Mar 27, 2014 3:57:25 GMT
Vanillan - Ino birds ceres are not quite as tricky as they may seem. If they are white or brown or have any white or brown, they will be female. If the cere is purple or pink and smooth, the bird is male, as it is in young budgies. Actually, the same is the case for DECs.
Dark eyed clears are fairly rare because they are a unique combination of two pied mutations, one of which is dominant and one of which is recessive: Clearflight and Recessive pied in the same bird. As to seeing them often, it is fairly typical for a trait to be quite common in one area and very uncommon in others depending on the breeding stock that supplies animals for a given area. I have never seen a DEC in person because they are uncommon where I live.
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Post by vanillan on Mar 28, 2014 9:57:37 GMT
Sarah: she does have white on her nostrils, and her cere is dark pink, when you say smooth, do u mean one colour? or texture/looks smooth? because it loooks smooth
Thanks santinoandmondo
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Post by luvsanimals2 on Mar 28, 2014 13:23:38 GMT
looking at it closer, I am going to change mine to female lol. Lisa, i zoomed in on the first pic posted and it didnt look at all brown, it looked pink with some blue
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Post by dianapalmer on Mar 28, 2014 15:13:34 GMT
How can a bird be both dominant and recessive pied? I thought recessive was where it had one gene for pied and dominant has two genes for pied.
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Post by vanillan on Mar 30, 2014 8:43:12 GMT
yeh definitely no brown, obvious pink and white, with maybe the pink areas looking to a point its possibly blue, possibly
on closer look, her eyes are brown, or really dark red so it looks brown..now I'm confused lol
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Post by luvsanimals2 on Mar 30, 2014 15:03:36 GMT
she is lutino if she has red eyes
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Post by vanillan on Mar 31, 2014 15:40:54 GMT
of course Miss E has to be difficult to identify her type
even her personality can be difficult sometimes too! =)
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Post by Budgielover on Mar 31, 2014 15:56:49 GMT
I have an ino too, 23 days old today maybe it's too early to say, but I think there is some white on her cere, what do you think? The photo was taken with natural light.  Your chick is a female as unless the mother was an ino then the chick could be either sex but as the male is the one split for ino all inos from him will be female unless he is paired to an ino hen. |
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Post by kelirebeli on Apr 1, 2014 5:18:08 GMT
Male creamino
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