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Post by luvsanimals2 on Apr 10, 2014 2:27:52 GMT
oh no D:> HJave you tried to play youtube videos of just flock calling? I hope she comes back (
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Post by Pammy on Apr 10, 2014 4:08:15 GMT
Thank you all so much. Your concern matters to me.
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Post by Sarah on Apr 10, 2014 23:09:48 GMT
Oh Pammy, I am just devastated to hear this news. However, please bear in mind that lost birds remain within one mile of the place they escaped for one month. You might consider taking one or more of your budgies outdoors in a secured cage and encourage them to call and see if she doesn't return to you. It does happen! Don't give up the search.
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Post by Pammy on Apr 11, 2014 2:26:23 GMT
I asked my neighbors to let me know if they see a bright green "parakeet."
Now that my birds are clipped, I think I can catch them with some effort, or else have my little Natey capture them. He's quite good at it. I'm not, because I don't like to scare them or worse, hurt them. Tomorrow morning I will do my best to catch them and stuff them into the tiny cage Kringle & Clausy came in when I adopted them. I'll zip tie the three little doors shut and take them outside. It would be wonderful if Noel came back to us.
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Post by luvsanimals2 on Apr 11, 2014 2:33:37 GMT
goodluck. my birds flock call when they are separated and near each other.
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Post by santinoandmondo on Apr 11, 2014 3:49:24 GMT
what would you carry Noel back in if you find her? Do you have another cage? Will she sit on your hand if you offer millet?
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Post by kmic on Apr 11, 2014 9:30:38 GMT
Hope you find Noel! Do make sure you have something to catch Noel with if she does come close (A towel for example) - remember she's still fully-flighted and probably very afraid. And then also something to carry her home in. Also I have no idea what cages you have, but if you have two small ones I'd suggest separating your birds (for example have December and Kringle in different cages so that they'll flock call each other as they can't get to each other). I know it's kinda cruel, but it's only for a short while and to try and find their lost friend.
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Post by dianapalmer on Apr 11, 2014 14:46:59 GMT
I think these are all good suggestions. However, I am not sure it will be possible to get her back. I'm sure you feel terrible about losing her, and I am concerned that all the descriptions may make you feel as though you SHOULD be able to find her. You have been an excellent mother to her. You cannot center your life around finding her. Things happen to birds in the wild all the time. She may have had a longer life than she would have had in different circumstances.
Just another perspective.
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Post by bree1818 on Apr 11, 2014 16:45:45 GMT
It doesn't hurt to try to find her.
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Post by santinoandmondo on Apr 11, 2014 18:43:00 GMT
I don't think anyone is telling Pammy that she is likely to get Noel back. But it sounds like she wants to spend as much as she is able to and she is open to ideas on what she might be able to do. As each day passes, the odds are probably decreasing but you can't give up hope. Noel may still be alive.
I saw a friend today and told her the story of poor Noel. She told me of how she used to own parakeets when she was a girl when they lived in an apartment in New Jersey. Her family got a call from a neighbor and asked if one of their birds got loose because he could see out outside. There was a little parakeet nibbling on the windshield wiper of a parked car! It was starving and didn't know what to eat. My friend's father just picked up the bird with his hand and they named it "Lucky". No one knows where it came from or how long it had been out loose.
Pammy, maybe you can put up some lost posters in your neighborhood and local supermarket? Maybe someone will find her nearby like my friend found a parakeet in her neighborhood? Try contacting local vets and animal shelters too.
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Post by luvsanimals2 on Apr 11, 2014 23:04:27 GMT
There is hope Diana, our previous bird got out and we actually followed him, he barely left the yard, he sure did love his mirror though. without that, he would have been lost forever.
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Post by dcalton75 on Apr 12, 2014 1:26:40 GMT
I am so sorry. I can't imagine the feeling of one my birds making it outside. We have really enjoyed our birds ability to fly but this makes me question our decision. I think a clipping may be in order in the near future. Once again so sorry.
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Post by rdkntriker on Apr 12, 2014 14:31:12 GMT
I am very sorry that the budgie got loose, but I do not think we all need to now jump into getting our birds clipped. First look at your lifestyle for the bird. I let Lucky out in my office and she would need to get though a few doors before getting outside.
What happened to Pammy is a hard lesson on always being careful and take nothing for granted. We all feel so bad for her and we all have been there with a pet or two. I had a Beagle that got loose and was hit by a car.
We need to remember to never under estimate them. Just my thoughts.
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Post by dianapalmer on Apr 12, 2014 14:54:45 GMT
In contrast to rdkntriker's situation, I live in a small house. The only practical way to interact with my birds is in the main living area. The front door is right there. I always watch carefully when I need to open the door. It is hopeless to think I could put my birds away every time I open the door. If there is a lot of in-and-out, like bringing groceries in, they are caged. But, if a neighbor comes to the door or I have to take the trash out, no.
Emma, in particular, is such a strong and quick flyer, I don't think I could get her back if she slipped out.
It is a difficult decision. Emma clearly loves flying. I love to see her come in for a landing. As she gets close to where she wants to be, she does this amazing little lift and turn, then down, wings spread out and held still, perfectly graceful!
I read a parrot blog in which the expert said that, if you have birds, you must have two front doors, separated by a space (I guess kind of like an air lock). But, how many of us can afford to do something like that?
Some of the responses to my prior message sound as though I am saying "don't bother to look for Noel, it's hopeless." That is not my intention at all.
Some years ago, my husband and I had two cats. One of them did not show up to come inside for the night. Next morning, still no cat. We made a poster, took it down and xeroxed it, and put it in all the mailboxes in the neighborhood. When we got home, the cat was sitting on our front step, washing herself. My husband said she must have read the posters.
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Post by Pammy on Apr 13, 2014 3:45:41 GMT
I so appreciate everyone's concern, and the differing points of view - all caring and kind. Noel has not returned home. No one I know has seen a glimpse of her. She's been gone 4 1/2 days. I am ready to accept that I've lost her.
I agree that wing clipping should not be performed across the board. Each person must analyze their own situation and determine what is best for them and for their birds. Sounds like Santa's Lucky is fairly secure in her room of the home. Sounds like Diana's birds live right near doors that open to the outside, like mine do. For me, clipping was the right answer. I just lost a wonderful little pet to flying out the door. Our birds live in the main living area with three doors that open several times each day. Like Diana, it's impossible to consider caging the birds anytime the door opens. I have five kids, two of my kids have boyfriends, not to mention regular friends, and my husband and myself, including one 4-year-old. The doors get opened. The doors aren't always promptly gone thru and closed. I was foolish to have open-cage, fully flighted birds in here. I paid dearly for my foolishness.
PLEASE let's don't all grab the scissors and trim every bird on this forum. But if your bird in your situation in your home is regularly near open doors without a cage, you may want to consider it thoughtfully. And I must say, FOR ME and mine, it's been a wonderful thing to be able to interact more with our wild little budgies and have them sit upon our shoulders. Yes, it's true that it's only because they can't fly, but we'll take it. We got them to be pets, after all is said and done.
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